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Umbrella rig setup

Started by Hollada, April 11, 2016, 06:25:27 PM

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Hollada

For those who throw the "rig" what's your setup?  And is that a dedicated setup or a shared?

I've used my frog Rod, Dobyns 735 with a curado 201e7, but didn't feel I was getting enough distance on ththe casts.  Only tried a handful of times, so could just be lack of experience..
Dan

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djkimmel

I don't have a dedicated rod because I don't throw it that often and that would just be another expense I don't want to incur. I've been throwing it on 7 or 7 1/2 foot rods with lots of backbone and doing a combination loop and roll cast to get it out there without tangling too often.

When I use the finesse Reaper Rig from Kustom Kicker Jigs (no longer being made though Al and Bobs apparently have some still) I use a 7 MH rod I use for long casting spinnerbaits (Grandt C10) and 20 pound test P-Line HALO co-flourocarbon line with the same lop-roll cast.

Help stop invasive spcies. Don't move fish between unconnected bodies of water. Clean, drain and dry your boat before launching on another water body.
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spinnerbation

Depends on the overall size of your rig? Size / Weight of Baits & Jig heads, Head Weight of the Rig, and Length of the Arms on the rig all make a big difference in selecting the appropriate setup.

If you are using the traditional bama rig with big hollow bellow or paddle tails on 1/4-3/8 heads, a 3/4 - 1.5 oz 4-5 wire main rig then I would recommend finding a Heavy action Swimbait Rod with a Moderate or Parabolic Taper in the longest length you are comfortable throwing.

Anything with a Fast Tip puts too much "whip" in the cast with hinders in overall distance as well as puts a spin on the rig causing more frequent tangles. So that's why I would go with a the Moderate Taper. Heavy Action is for the backbone to not snap your rod throwing such a heavy rig.

Now if you are throwing a more compact rig like the Yum Tri-Pod then you can get probably away with a lighter power rod MH maybe? But I wouldn't deviate from the Moderate Taper. That seems to make the most difference in casting distance for me regardless of rig size.

Another recommendation is to throw it using 15-25 LB Co-Polymer Line. Most guys using Braid or Floro with this rig. But I've found that a polymer based line works a LOT better for casting distance because of its added stretch in the line. Helps to take away a lot of that "whip" in the line I was referring to.

Other than that like Dan said casting technique might make a big difference also. Roll or Lob type casts tend to work a lot better than other styles.

fishstick

The longer the rod the better, definitely makes it easier to launch and manage the rig. A Dobyns 804C with a Lew's super duty has been my go to setup. I'll use it for light flipping as well.

djkimmel

A light flipping rod with a more moderate action would be a nice rod to use for the technique. I have a flipping stick I could use but it action is too fast to throw it well.

Help stop invasive spcies. Don't move fish between unconnected bodies of water. Clean, drain and dry your boat before launching on another water body.
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Waterfoul

I've been throwing it on a Medium Heavy Bass Pro 7'11" telescoping Crankin stick for several years now.  Caught my biggest bass ever (7.89 lbs) and my biggest musky ever (47" ~20 lbs) on it.  Currently using a Shimano Curado bantam reel (the old green ones you can't get anymore) but would like a slightly heavier duty reel, just for longevity. 
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