Pick the 2013 Fall MadWags Memorial West Michigan Lake for Sunday Oct 6

[Firefighter Jeff]

The etymology of hoosier is unknown, but it has been used since at least 1830. According to Bill Bryson, there are many suggestions for the derivation of the word, but none is universally accepted.[citation needed] Jacob Piatt Dunn, longtime secretary of the Indiana Historical Society, noted that "hoosier" was frequently used in many parts of the South in the 19th century for woodsmen or rough hill people. He traced the word back to "hoozer," from the Cumberland dialect of England. This derives from the Anglo-Saxon "hoo", meaning high or hill. In Cumberland, "hoozer" meant anything unusually large, such as a hill. Immigrants from Cumberland settled in the southern mountains (Cumberland Mountains, Cumberland River, Cumberland Gap, etc.). Their descendants brought the name with them when they settled in the hills of southern Indiana.[1]

Smith found that the 1826 letter by James Curtis cited by Dunn and others as the first known use of the term was actually written in 1846, and a 1827 diary entry by Sandford and Son (published in a newspaper in 1859) was likely an editorial comment and not from the original diary. Smith theorizes the word originated in the Ohio River commerce culture as a term for Indiana farmer flat-boatmen and did not become an insult until 1836.[4]

Fisk University history professor William Piersen suggests that followers of preacher Harry Hoosier were the original "Hoosiers". Harry Hoosier was a black itinerant Methodist minister who evangelized throughout the American frontier at the beginning of the 19th century. Piersen writes, "Such an etymology would offer Indiana a plausible and worthy first Hoosier – 'Black Harry' Hoosier – the greatest preacher of his day, a man who rejected slavery and stood up for morality and the common man."[5]

The term came into general usage in the 1830s. John Finley of Richmond, Indiana, wrote a poem, "The Hoosier's Nest",[6] which was published in 1833[7] and was used as the "Carrier's Address" of the Indianapolis Journal, January 1, 1833. It was generally accepted as a term for Indiana residents by the 1840s,[7] and as it came into common usage, the debates about the term's origin began.[1]

[djkimmel]

Your sure they didn't just steal this from the Canucks - hoser?!?

[mikesmiph]

I thought Sanford and Son had a junkyard. Didn't think they knew how to write.

[bob o]

Cadillac and Mitchell, well are we going to wrap this up and go to Cadillac/Mitchell?

[djkimmel]

Not quite ready to pick yet. I want to see a few schedules out before I call it. It is still pretty close.

[Waterfoul]

You guys don't know what your missing by not going just a bit further west!   

[Mike S.]

Nope, they definitely don't. Oh well, more for me and you come next fall.

[dartag]

We used to rent a trailer at the campground on the Manistee river just over the M55 bridge.  Would make a great base camp.  easy access to the lake. 

[Waterfoul]

As low as the water is... it might not work out up the river at all.  BUT!!!  It's snowing like crazy right now so maybe the water levels will start to come up a bit??  One can only hope.

[dartag]

looked it up in my log book.   We stayed at the Insta Launch Campground.  They are right at the mouth by the rail road bridge.  They used to have charter boats there and there was a  channel to the lake.  Looks like 110.00 a night will rent a 2 bed room mobile home.  Not fancy but we used to have a lot of fun there.

[Mike S.]

As low as the water is... it might not work out up the river at all.  BUT!!!  It's snowing like crazy right now so maybe the water levels will start to come up a bit??  One can only hope.

Snowing like crazy?  Huh?  Not one snowflake here.

[Waterfoul]

As low as the water is... it might not work out up the river at all.  BUT!!!  It's snowing like crazy right now so maybe the water levels will start to come up a bit??  One can only hope.

Snowing like crazy?  Huh?  Not one snowflake here.

We got about 4" here in GR.  They got a lot more south and east of us.  The line never made it out of Kent County as far as I can tell...

[thedude]

i was up to howard city and they got a bit. we got 3-4 inches - further east the more north it went.

[gmetime24]

We only got an inch or two in the Saginaw area. Once you start headin north there is a ton of snow. I'd say about 10 inches near houghton and close to 20 inches in Petoskey

Nice to see Manistee pull into the lead. I'm pulling for a west side lake to win

[djkimmel]

We got less than 1.5 inches in Lansing.

[bob o]

so much for the snow reports lets pick a lake

[Mike S.]

Ok. Muskegon it is. Right after we watch the big dogs find all the really big fish. Sound good to you Dan?

[djkimmel]

That seems boring to me... too easy??

[djkimmel]

Due to the unexpected bonus of getting the Toyota All-Star Week in Muskegon the original week of our Fall MadWags, I've had to push the date out to Sunday, October 6, 2013. I hope that does not mess too many people up but I plan on being at the All-Star event doing media and I expect many of you will want to be around that event too. Thanks!

Right now, I'm thinking maybe we do this at Manistee. Are there enough spots for ~15 boats to all catch a bunch of bass?

[TackleThis!]

Dan, Oct 6 at Manistee for the fall MagWags tournament is this a for sure date and location ?