deep cranking!

[korean_bassmaster]

Hey guys I'm looking to get into deep cranking.   I was wondering if it'd b better to get the med or med/heavy and 7'6"ish or 7'10ish?   Any info would b appreciated.

[TimH]

Get the medium heavy and go for the 7'-10" rod.  With deep cranking you need some serious backbone in the rod for when you catch a fish down deep.  Deep diving crankbaits also "pull" harder on your rod than a medium or shallow running crank, so its important to have a strong rod.  The longer the rod the better for deep cranking as well.  In order for the crankbait to achieve maximum depth, and for it to stay at the depth for as long as possible, you need to be able to make as long a cast as possible.  A long rod will help make that possible because longer rods have an ability to "load up" that shorter rods just don't have.
Also, you'll want to run only fluorocarbon line because it sinks.  Mono and braided line float and even though it doesn't seem like it would matter, it definitely does.

[Waterfoul]

If you want to get into it and not break the bank, check out Bass Pro Shops Crankin Sticks.  I have a couple and really like them, especially for the price.  They make several of the longer ones in a telescoping model, so they will fit in your rod locker or car/truck no problem.

[thedude]

power is less important than action. I prefer fiberglass, MH 7'6".  they pull hard but the blank is going to aborb most of that. They make some good graphite blanks with moderate actions but i think they pull pretty hard. The fiberglass is well help you hook and land fish also.

these are good articles:
http://fishpaa.com/2014/02/championship-cranking-made-easy-part-one-the-rod/
http://fishpaa.com/2014/03/championship-cranking-made-easy-part-two-the-line/

[Manxfishing]

A DD crank will over power a med
Your best with a MH, And like other have said the longer rod will help launch the crank
Powell & Dobyns makes some nice crank rods

There's a great book for Cranking called Precision casting by Mark Romanack
(he also did the Precision trolling book) it's out of print but if you find a copy it's a good read
It will explain why line dia. efects the depth, and how far you need to cast to get the baits to get the
baits down.

So what do you consider deep cranking? 15', 20 plus
And what kind of cranks aare you planning on useing?

[korean_bassmaster]

Ya I was thinking of getting the Powell endurance cranking stick and running 10# flouro. Ive been using strike ki g 6xds and Normans dd. Any other preferred brands?   I fish usually 15-20ft

[Manxfishing]

Both good cranks, you'll need the MH
The Norman dd22 might hit 15' that SK 6xd should go 17-18'
Rapala does have DT 20 that will go that deep.

I like the Powell, just a good solid crank rod

Dive curves are all based on holding the rod tip 2' above the water
And for every foot lower you hold the tip, you'll gain that amount
So if you hold the tip at the water line your 2' deeper, get on your knees and hold the tip 2-4' under water
you can get the cranks 4-6' deeper. so you can the hit bottom at 20'

It also works for running the cranks higher if your hanging up.

[korean_bassmaster]

Sweet thanks for the help. Now just have to wait

[korean_bassmaster]

Ne thoughts on the shimano crucial d. Cranking rods

[Coop]

Personally I have had great luck running deep cranks with a Shimano Crucial 7'7" MH Flippin Stick with an Abu Garcia 5:4:1 Revo Winch Reel. The nice thing about this setup is it also works as a great deep water structure jig or Carolina rig setup. Im a huge Shimano and Veritas / Veracity fan.

[korean_bassmaster]

What r the pros and cons of a low speed (6.3:1-) reel vs. A high speed (6.3:1+) reel?

[BIGSHOW]

I think this about sums it up. http://www.wired2fish.com/choosing-the-right-gear-ratio-reel/

[thedude]

the spro little john DD is my favorite. That or a fat free shad. I use xds quite a bit also.

[Manxfishing]

What r the pros and cons of a low speed (6.3:1-) reel vs. A high speed (6.3:1+) reel?

For me
I like 5:1 on the cranks
And i have 6.3:1 for lipless and jerk baits

The thought is
I'm never burning the the cranks, and the lower gear ratio keeps them slow (and I have a habit of going to fast)
The lipless I'll burn some days and the jerk baits the higher speed helps to gather line faster
I like 7:1 for jigs and frogs 
Just a personal choice or fishing what I have

[Coop]

Im also looking into possibly picking up a Revo Rocket 9:1 ratio. Insanity!! I think it would be an excellent choice for heavy cover or froggin'

[bigjc]

What r the pros and cons of a low speed (6.3:1-) reel vs. A high speed (6.3:1+) reel?

For me
I like 5:1 on the cranks
And i have 6.3:1 for lipless and jerk baits

The thought is
I'm never burning the the cranks, and the lower gear ratio keeps them slow (and I have a habit of going to fast)
The lipless I'll burn some days and the jerk baits the higher speed helps to gather line faster
I like 7:1 for jigs and frogs 
Just a personal choice or fishing what I have

My sentiments exactly. 

[gmetime24]

The bps cranking sticks are very nice rods for the price. I bought one a couple years ago and have no complaints. Right now they are on sale as well

[Manxfishing]

Im also looking into possibly picking up a Revo Rocket 9:1 ratio. Insanity!! I think it would be an excellent choice for heavy cover or froggin'

I've seen 8:1, didn't know there's a 9:1 out there
Yea, that's crazy fast. If you pick one up. Please let us know how you like it

[korean_bassmaster]

So I'm between the Powell endurance 7'5" med/ heavy $199 or shimano crucial 7'6" or 7'11" $179 and dont kno what to do

[Manxfishing]

My advice
That's retail

Bass tackle depoit will be having another sale soon
There st. patricks day sale was 20% off, I picked up a Dobyns champion for 199 with free shipping (no tax)

Hang in there a couple more weeks
there sould be a Easter sale at BTD (plus there a sponser of the site)
They sell Powell, Shimano and Dobyns
With 20% off the Shimano is 145, Powell is 179 with free shipping
Dobyns has a 805 cb rm rod that was made for throwing DD22's it's a 8' MH


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