Guys already bass fishing

[djkimmel]

Thought you can fish for dog fish any time of the year?

Had to join the train...

You can fish for dogfish or catfish any time of the year. But if you do it in a bass boat you will still get accused of bass fishing out of season on many waters.

Having some fish open all year and some fish closed for part of the year on the same lakes that will hit the same baits isn't the most feasible way of managing things. Another reason why most states don't do this.

[djkimmel]

I'm hoping this is the last year we have to put up with 'guilty by bass boat' in Michigan.

[21XDC]

[Mike S.]

I think this is the 5th or 6th year I've seen this topic now. Lol!  Every year the read gets better and better. Maybe next year if the bass season is changed, we can start bickering over who drives their boat over 55.  That's breaking the law too, and I bet there's plenty of us on here who don't break the law but run their boats as fast as they can. Just saying. 

[dartag]

Used to be the Drop Shot Debate before it was legal.

Not sure how fast my boat will go.  I am usually in the right lane with my blinker on. 

[21XDC]

We can start bickering over who drives their boat over 55.  That's breaking the law too, and I bet there's plenty of us on here who don't break the law but run their boats as fast as they can. Just saying. 

I break that law 1/2 throttle.... 

But this is the point I was trying to make earlier... 

[motocross269]

Maybe it is just me...but I look at someone differently that gets a speeding ticket VS someone that purposely violates a game law......It's comparing apples and oranges....

There are lots of laws I don't agree with....Hell, To be honest I would smoke Marijuana if it was legal...but it isn't and after 23 years in the military I haven't touched it since I was in College....but laws are laws and thank God we have citizens like Mr Kimmel that are willing to stand up and work through the system to bring some common sense to the Government agencies...

[bob o]

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[Mike S.]

AWESOME!!!

[Mojo]

It wouldn't look good for my sponsors if the DNR fined or confiscated my gear..... Sorry if I'm not rolling with the crowd on this one. I can wait for 2015.....

[PineLk 49]

This thread will just not die. It's like a can of gas that just keeps leaking. Did you fire this back up DK? Thank you for clarifying Conservation Law for me motocross. By the way guys and gals... it is about a 50/50 split on what our feelings are on this subject.

I have been avoiding this example, but no one will put that can of gas in their boat and JUST GO FISHING ( Out of sight, out of mind aye?).

Example... A guy decides to go bass fishing out of season(with a very fast boat I might ad  ). He is just whacking the smallies on blade baits, jerk baits and crankbaits (double treble hooks). This guy says he catches over a 100 bass and immediately releases those fish. Now we all know probability of all these fish surviving is 0 because some of these fish have choked the bait and 2 or 3 are going to die. My question is this:

A. Do I keep these fish and harvest them?

B. Do I release these fish and let them sink to the bottom? (I don't think anybody seen me)

Guys... just go fishing. Why bring this negative attention to our great sport?

Dave

[ACbassassassin]

It wouldn't look good for my sponsors if the DNR fined or confiscated my gear..... Sorry if I'm not rolling with the crowd on this one. I can wait for 2015.....

You and I are on the same page.

[djkimmel]

This thread will just not die. It's like a can of gas that just keeps leaking. Did you fire this back up DK? Thank you for clarifying Conservation Law for me motocross. By the way guys and gals... it is about a 50/50 split on what our feelings are on this subject.

I have been avoiding this example, but no one will put that can of gas in their boat and JUST GO FISHING ( Out of sight, out of mind aye?).

Example... A guy decides to go bass fishing out of season(with a very fast boat I might ad  ). He is just whacking the smallies on blade baits, jerk baits and crankbaits (double treble hooks). This guy says he catches over a 100 bass and immediately releases those fish. Now we all know probability of all these fish surviving is 0 because some of these fish have choked the bait and 2 or 3 are going to die. My question is this:

A. Do I keep these fish and harvest them?

B. Do I release these fish and let them sink to the bottom? (I don't think anybody seen me)

Guys... just go fishing. Why bring this negative attention to our great sport?

Dave

Nope. I didn't fire it up. At least, not on purpose..? I'm sure I'd have more members if I had more of these kinds of posts, at least if they were allowed to get more 'Springer-esque' but I've never enjoyed that and you are all too mature. They wouldn't be the right kind of members generally anyway. Not all of them.

I always call this cabin fever though that's not really fair. I've already said this kind of stuff is a good example of why I personally want to change unnecessary, social regulations. I love fishing and want to help make the world a better place by getting more people into fishing.

We haven't gotten on the topic of what to do about fish that die yet. Don't worry, they are 'debating' that on other websites The answer I've always gotten from the MDNR is if they aren't in season you have to release them. Luckily, spring, cold water mortality is generally very, very low due to the low water temp.

I've also recently been in some discussions about the muskie anglers who try to revive a tired muskie in their livewell before releasing it. Technically, some consider that muskie in possession though possession is not defined directly anywhere in Michigan law. The MDNR changed the fishing guide this year to read that you would need to tag such a muskie - must be tagged unless released immediately - and you only get one tag a year. There's actually an angler pushing really hard to get the MDNR to interpret that once/if you use your 1 tag per year you can't fish for muskie anymore in Michigan. I think that is ridiculous and stupid. But he sure believes he's doing some good...

Different folks. Different strokes... or, they say it takes all kinds... I just want to go fishing.

[motocross269]

This thread will just not die. It's like a can of gas that just keeps leaking. Did you fire this back up DK? Thank you for clarifying Conservation Law for me motocross. By the way guys and gals... it is about a 50/50 split on what our feelings are on this subject.

I have been avoiding this example, but no one will put that can of gas in their boat and JUST GO FISHING ( Out of sight, out of mind aye?).

Example... A guy decides to go bass fishing out of season(with a very fast boat I might ad  ). He is just whacking the smallies on blade baits, jerk baits and crankbaits (double treble hooks). This guy says he catches over a 100 bass and immediately releases those fish. Now we all know probability of all these fish surviving is 0 because some of these fish have choked the bait and 2 or 3 are going to die. My question is this:

A. Do I keep these fish and harvest them?

B. Do I release these fish and let them sink to the bottom? (I don't think anybody seen me)

Guys... just go fishing. Why bring this negative attention to our great sport?

Dave

It's pretty simple......what do the current DNR regulations tell you to.do?....It really.doesnt.get more black and white.then that...

Everyone has to make their own moral and ethical decisions where they draw the line in life...

A common sense exchange on this forum with no personal attacks far from sheds a bad light if you compare to Tournament anglers.fishing out of season under the pubc.eye...
All you have to do is check out the forums over at lakestclair.net if you want to see some
general disdain towards us evil toirnament fisherman......Fishing out of season, moving into
Their fishing area, Power loading, driving too fast,arrogant guy in the fancy jersey, poor.fish care, Ive seen it all posted over there.....So we are being watched and some are loking for a reason to give us a hard time and put a huge damper on our sport..

[djkimmel]

Some will find two things wrong a year and paint the whole bass boat nation with that brush too. In the old days I used to lecture a lot more at the federation meetings because I know how much we stand out, and that this is human nature, but I realized I was preaching to the choir more often than getting to the root of the few bad apples problem.

It is important to remind each other that these perceptions do exist, and more important for all of us to set a good example.

I don't get after people fishing out of season much because not all people in a bass boat are targeting bass out of season. If we can get the season fixed (because it is broken) then none of us have to worry about 'guilty by bass boat' anymore. I'm sure we can find something else after that... but maybe we can fix that too!?! And then fix the next thing, and the next thing...

[motocross269]

Excuse the typos...hate typing on my cell

[djkimmel]

That's a lot to type on a phone!

[PineLk 49]

DK and motocross.... you are 100% correct. I let my judgement get clouded by getting to personal. If I'm ever in the wrong I will be the first to admit it. So I will publicly apologize for being to insensitive and HOPE that those offended will understand I was just venting a little steam.

Sometimes I make the mistake of jumping over the fence, rather than just walking around it. Again, another lesson learned the hard way.

Dave

[djkimmel]

I know I wasn't thinking about anyone in particular when I wrote my latest comments. I was just doing what I usually do - sharing my thoughts with everyone who comes along and reads. I didn't have a problem with any of your particular posts. I don't have a problem with people sharing their opinions on various topics. I'm sure glad we all do that pretty good on here.

I vent too. Probably as much or more than anyone. I keep forgetting that sometimes people will even think I'm venting towards them when I don't mean to.

[motocross269]

Its all good...I have seen these discussions deteriate rapidly on other forums but the members here do a great job of not letting things get personal....This is America we arent all suppose to have the same opinion, it is all about tolerance and how you express yourself....

One good thing about all of this...It was a pretty short time between ice out and the Opener of C and R.......Last I heard the Lakes up north still were pretty well covered...Some of our up north friends may have to use their spuds for opening day....