Deep Crankin reel ???

[motocross269]

I have seen quite a few pros on TV lately state that they are not running low speed reels for Deep crankin..That is one area I want to improve on this year..What do you guys think???  I only own Higher speed reels....

I have a 7FT Med Hvy crankin stick that I used last year with a 6.2-1 reel...I didn't throw it much because I would always bailout to other presentations..I am going to force myself to get better with a crankbait this year at least while fun fishing...

[LGMOUTH]

  Although I only really started crankbait fishing this year I only used the high speed (6.2 or 6.3:1) reels. One of the best crankbait fisherman I know is Greg Mangus and that is all he uses and of course I followed suit. I also use a 7ft 10" rod for cranking, seems to hold onto the fish alot better..and you can cast it a mile.

[Genie]

I heard Greg catches all the fish though ...

[LGMOUTH]

I heard Greg catches all the fish though ...

Thats why I do everything he tells me.. High speed reel and 7' 10" crankin rod

[Waterfoul]

Not really sure why you would need a high speed reel.  I have not problem dragging a DT 15 with my 5.1:1 David Fritz reel on a 7' Bass Pro crankin stick.  I like this setup.

High speed retrieve might help you get the bait to depth a bit quicker than my low speed, but who knows.

[thedude]

lower gear ratio = easier to crank and easier to manage the speed of the retrieve.
personally don't think its too big of a deal if you can concentrate on the speed of your retrieve and not constantly run it too fast.
i use a 5.3:1 on a 7 or 7'6 moderate/slow action pure fiberglass rod.

[motocross269]

The old mantra was Low speed reels for cranking for the power..A low speed reel only takes in around 23 inches of line per handle rotation and the higher speeds take in over 30 inches per Handle rotation...


It seems like most anglers today are crankin as fast as they can anyway...Do you think a 6.2-1 will be OK for a DD22 or DT16??

[LGMOUTH]

The old mantra was Low speed reels for cranking for the power..A low speed reel only takes in around 23 inches of line per handle rotation and the higher speeds take in over 30 inches per Handle rotation...


It seems like most anglers today are crankin as fast as they can anyway...Do you think a 6.2-1 will be OK for a DD22 or DT16??

I know the high speed reel works fine for the DT16 not sure about the 22. And yes I reel about as fast as I can. I mostly use either the DT10 or CFlash 44 which runs about the same and occassionally use the DT16 and use the same retrieve for all three..I believe you get alot of reaction strikes reeling so fast..

[Cy]

I run deep cranks on a 7' MH Loomis CBR w/ 6.3:1 reel.  This setup works great for me I have thrown DD22s and DT16s without issue.  I think you can always slow down if you have a faster reel but you can't speed up a slow reel.  I also find that with those big cranks you can't exactly "burn" them regardless of the speed of the reel.

Cy

[TCook]

I been using a curado 200DPV specificly for deep cranking, the 5.0:1 gear ratio works great.

T

[djkimmel]

I heard Greg catches all the fish though ...

I heard Genie doesn't answer his email... ??

[Cheetam]

I've used both high speed and lower speed reels, and have stuck with higher speed reels...only because you can slow down a high speed reel, but can't speed up a slow one (like Cy said).  A lot of times, when fishing shallow (<3 ft), I like to burn minus 1s and similar, which you can't really do as effectively with a slow speed reel, and I use the same reels for all of my cranking (old green curados).  When using deep divers I usually just crank them down and pull the baits with the rod, only reeling when I am taking in line.  Since I am only pulling the baits, it doesn't really matter what speed reel I am using.  BUT, I only really throw deep divers when I want to dredge the bottom.

[Ranger5Smallie]

I had every intention of going back to a slower geared reel this spring.  However, after watching how fast KVD cranked those ledges at Kentucky last year and how much success my partner and I had throwing deep diving cranks last summer I think I am going to stay with my Revo's.

I might have to buy one of the Revo Winch's just to try! 

[thedude]

ok ok ok  - i gotta ask - since when is a 6.3:1 reel high speed?
i would call that average. i always considered "high-speed" 7:1 or higher. And yes i would think a 6.3:1 reel would be fine for most cranking applications.

[Cheetam]

ok ok ok  - i gotta ask - since when is a 6.3:1 reel high speed?
i would call that average. i always considered "high-speed" 7:1 or higher. And yes i would think a 6.3:1 reel would be fine for most cranking applications.

Heck, 5.1:1 reels were considered "high speed" in the 90's (and were marketed that way).  A long time ago, in a land far, far away, 3.8:1 and 4.2:1 ratios were really common (Abu reels come to mind...I had a 3.8:1 5500 or maybe 5600 I used to crank with,  it was called the "winch" - like the new Revos- ), so a 6.3:1 reel is/was high speed.

[thedude]

oh ok ... so its an old guy thing... now i get it.

[Cheetam]

oh ok ... so its an old guy thing... now i get it.

LOL...yeah, that's it.

[bshaner]

I use a 6'8" rod with chronarch mg50 6:3.1 reel for small/shallow cranks and a 7'6" rod with the curado dpv 5:0.1 reel for deep/larger cranks.

For me this lets me burn those shallow cranks like some of you mentioned as well as cast them better.  I really believe in lures matching the recommended line/lure weights on the rod.  These longer rods are just not made for the smaller crankbaits in my opinion.  The mg50 is also a lighter lure reel and casts those small cranks like a dream.

I believe past discussions have used the analogy "reeling in a mack truck" when referring to trying to retreive a deep crank for 8 hours.  The lower gear ratio helps keep my arm from feeling like it's going to fall off after a day of cranking.  The longer rod as mentioned helps the casting distance and again the recommended lure weight fits with these big cranks.

I've never really been a "cranking" guy but learned the hard way this year losing 2 fish when it mattered that no matter what rod length you are using you better have a softer tip that will absorb shock and not rip the trebles right out of the fish's mouth.

I guess this thread isnt about rods, it's about reels.  So my answer is diplomatic.  I use both low and "higher" gear ratio depending on the application.

B