NBAA Payouts

[Larry313]

Does anyone know where to find the 2009 payouts for the NBAA online

[Ranger5Smallie]

They were in the magazine this spring.  Ask your director...they will tell you!!!

[MBell]

Some directors will tell you, others won't.  2 years ago I figured it around 63%.
-Matt

[squid]

What would you like to know?  How many boats are we talking about?  I can help you with what is to be paid out.

[Monkey-Man]

Mbell,

you are right 63% - that sucks!!!!!  wonder if other anglers realize just how much of their money they are taking from the anglers to pay people's salaries.

[LGMOUTH]

Mbell,

you are right 63% - that sucks!!!!!  wonder if other anglers realize just how much of their money they are taking from the anglers to pay people's salaries.

I will say this again and again if I have to. NBAA payouts are right around 70% at the ramp(they publish their payouts and you can check them out yourself) and well over 100% through the championship since they give a boat away to the winner. Lower than some at the ramp but well above everyone else at the championship. You cannot argue this, this is a fact. If you are someone that wants that extra at the ramp then NBAA wouldnt be for you. If your that someone that wants to qualify for a classic and a chance at winning a boat then YES NBAA would be for you. Its as simple as that.

[Lip_Ripper]

Well NBAA has really picked some less than average places to have they're championships in the last 4 years, Kentucky lake was nice, cuz it was a tournament and nice family vacation all mixed into one. With the different sites to visit while we were there. If I'm goin to take a week away from my job. Its going to be that kind of experience for me and I think alot of other guys would agree except for the single guys. Also the championship lakes should be on lakes that aren't accessable to members. At least a 6 hr drive. Or not in states that right now NBAA has divisions. Kinda keeps the playing field even. Theres alot of nice productive lakes down south that have big bass that everyone at any skill level go to and catch big fish. And have fun doing whether they place in the money or not. Therefore I'd like to see better payout percentages at the ramps as long as they keep theyre championships local. Illinois or Indiana is considered local to me, considering I live in Michigan. Just a thought. I understand that NBAA wants to exspand and attract divisions from other states, I seams like to me its more important for them to recruit Directors than the majority of guys that want to fish the tournaments. I think if the directors fish for the payouts at their tournaments they should put in their own entry fees. I know they get a percentage of every boat that shows up that covers that. Thats just a few things on NBAA that is a consern. Theres more that i wont get into. Thanks have a great 2010 on the water!!!  

[Eric]

Yep Don,

Told you so.  LOL

Guess I missed this one until now.

[sinkersanddinkers]

Mbell,

you are right 63% - that sucks!!!!!  wonder if other anglers realize just how much of their money they are taking from the anglers to pay people's salaries.

I will say this again and again if I have to. NBAA payouts are right around 70% at the ramp(they publish their payouts and you can check them out yourself) and well over 100% through the championship since they give a boat away to the winner. Lower than some at the ramp but well above everyone else at the championship. You cannot argue this, this is a fact. If you are someone that wants that extra at the ramp then NBAA wouldnt be for you. If your that someone that wants to qualify for a classic and a chance at winning a boat then YES NBAA would be for you. Its as simple as that.

I agree with LGMOUTH, but im not as kind as he his....LOL.  Ive fished NBAA pretty much since it was taken over by Jim, and I have even had my share of running some of the tournaments. I will tell everyone here just like I have told everyone else, if you dont like whats going on DONT FISH!!! STAY HOME and quit complaining. Do that, or fish something with a higher payout at the ramp, and then a mere extra couple hundred at the end of the year for a classic. From my own experience, it seem's to me that the ones that do the most complaining are the ones that consistantly donate and cant make the classic. Thats why there is a lot of little puddle tournaments popping up here and there, so guys can feel good about themselves when they win a 100 dollars  from their buddies.

[Skulley]

NBAA doesn't seem to be about fishing for money.  It is more fishing for points and making their championship.  If fishing for cash payout, then NBAA is not for you.  If fishing to qualify for a championship and a championship payout (cash, boat, prizes at end of season or beginning of new season) then NBAA is for you.  NBAA has never been about fishing for money during the regular schedule since their inception when.........about 1994 or so maybe even earlier.  Even before the current owners owned it.  Jack Sprague and Jack Hornung have grown the NBAA beyond Michigan.  It's all about making the championship.

It takes the 30% that they don't payout weekly to run the championship, pay for the boat to give away at the championship, as well as any other cash, prizes, and operating expenses to run a tournament trail.  I believe this could be applied to ebond's Huron Valley tournaments with NBAA on a much larger scale. 

BD           

[Lip_Ripper]

I've fished NBAA since Sprague took over, and it was pretty much the old red man series before that. I've been to 3 of their Classics, been divisonal points champion before and seen how things are run. I don't think the selling of raffle tickets to win prizes are the way to go, especially if they are sponsor donated. They should be given treated as give aways if you ask me. Most of the time the ones defending NBAA seem to be or have been Directors understandably. I guess if I were using NBAA as a financial vehicle other than fishing I would say the same things. And I agree with you guys as if people dont agree with how things are done here to fish somewhere else. Which alot of other guys have including myself have done. I think NBAA should stress a little more ethics with their members. For example: I fished a Top Bass event on a day when there was no NBAA event going on, and a couple of Guys were burning up a persons area that a Tournament participant was fishing(they claimed they were practicing for an up coming tournament during the week on Wixom Lake), and were confronted by the guys fishing the tournament, that they were fishing a tournament today and would appreciate if they would leave their area out of common curtiousy. They refused to leave and kept fishing. I know that theirs always a few bad apples in the bunch, but these are the things that give organizations a bad name, and ultimately can hurt them.I think fairness and leadership should come from the top down. I can understand how people can be that way. These amatuer tournament series, ie NBAA, Top Bass ect.... are here so we can have fun. And winning money for a day on the lake is a bonus too. Not get an attitude that I'm somebody cuz i fish bass tournaments and your infringing on my area or so on. We should respect each other and if your fishing on a day someone else is having a competition event, stay away from their spots and give them the respect that you would want. I've seen it time and again. If we were all so great at the sport, we'd be fishing professionally with the Van Dams, Eiconelli's. Lets have more common curtiousy and respect for people out on the water, even the boaters. If it starts with us, eventually it will come back from others. Have a great day on the water this summer. Have fun!!!!

[ROI Outdoors]

Mbell,

you are right 63% - that sucks!!!!!  wonder if other anglers realize just how much of their money they are taking from the anglers to pay people's salaries.

I will say this again and again if I have to. NBAA payouts are right around 70% at the ramp(they publish their payouts and you can check them out yourself) and well over 100% through the championship since they give a boat away to the winner. Lower than some at the ramp but well above everyone else at the championship. You cannot argue this, this is a fact. If you are someone that wants that extra at the ramp then NBAA wouldnt be for you. If your that someone that wants to qualify for a classic and a chance at winning a boat then YES NBAA would be for you. Its as simple as that.

I don't know the exact numbers and I don't think anyone can really put an exact percentage, that said Don's assesment is pretty accurate (he might know seeing as he has probably won more money in NBAA than anyone else ).  I ran a couple Overtime Divisions a few years ago and I think a lot of guys are forgetting about the fact that there is also a Division Championship which money is paid out at as well as the Classic.  The bottom line is we might not all agree with everything NBAA does but I don't think anyone can argue the fact that they have brought more anglers into the sport here in Michigan than anyone else in very long-time, I wouldn't have fished if it wasn't for them - they offer the more options than any organization out there.  Looking back on it I bet Jack H. spent a solid 2 hours a day for about 2 weeks leading up the 1st year I ran a division - he was never short with me which is amazing when you take into account how long-winded I am   If it wasn't for NBAA I wouldn't have got into this sport so I take that into consideration everytime I hear or read something about them.

All that said NBAA is in a position to do what they want to do regardless of what anyone says - however they are in also in a position to take comments and suggestions into consideration and if they really wanted to they could give FLW/BASS a run for their money especially in today's climate.  Again I don't agree with everything they do but I owe the gratitude for growing my passion for the sport competitive angling and the motivation to do what I can do to improve it.

[macbass]

lip ripper only one thing wrong with your last statement that i can see...red man had nothing to do with nbaa...redman is now bfl michigan division....

[LGMOUTH]

Very nice post ROI and this from a competing tournament organization. This says something about his and their integrity.

lip ripper only one thing wrong with your last statement that i can see...red man had nothing to do with nbaa...redman is now bfl michigan division....

Make that Three Mac, I have never seen NBAA charge for tickets to win sponsor products, and if I am wrong no one says they get everything for free. Take Lake Drive for instance, they give away a Thompson center muzzleloader away at every event and charge $10 for two tickets for it. They pay for the muzzleloader with the money and put the rest into the big bass pot. Not a free sponsor product.
The last thing is the assumption that NBAA anglers need an ethics class. Every year I hear horror stories about the ethics of boaters and non boaters in the bfl, is this FLW's fault. You see Mike Iaconelli smash an american flag across his leg is that BASS's fault, the answer is NO. You said it yourself that there are bad eggs everywhere and the fact that there was not another tournament going on at that time just makes those anglers just that anglers, no affiliation on that day. Did you ask them if they belong to any other organization like FLW, BASS, ABA, if they were would it be their fault also.
Yes I am a director for NBAA. All that does is gives me first hand information on how things are ran. This is why the directors will be the first to speak up on this kind of thing(they know how it really is). If you are not apart of the internal workings of an organization you really dont know how they work or are ran. When people do that and assume they know how things are done, thats when you get all the rumors and misconceptions of an organization no matter what or who it is.

[Lip_Ripper]

Yes mike Ike was disqualified for his actions for that day!! And it cost him alot of money, and almost sponsors.And no one is accusing NBAA as if its their fault for the actions of those other anglers. It comes down to common courteousy and yes they weren't fishing an event that day, it doesn't make them just anglers, People need to realize when they become apart of any organization they set a precedence for that organization in everything they do on and off the water!! Well then share with me the information that i need to cure my ignorance.. Nothing that NBAA does should be a secret to their members Directors or not,We are all members. We have the right to know. I have many friends that are directors in NBAA and I go by the info that I hear and what I have seen. I like touching a nerve on this subject,I can tell I got you rialled up LGM cuz it gets the truth out. And yes forgive me i was wrong. TNT was the NBAA prior, owned by Skeeter who also started NBAA. Sorry not the Red Man!!!!

[LGMOUTH]

No nerve touched, I always tell it like it is, not what I think it is, unless I dont know how it is.  

Ask away.

[Lip_Ripper]

share with me the ins and outs

[sinkersanddinkers]

Yes mike Ike was disqualified for his actions for that day!! And it cost him alot of money, and almost sponsors.And no one is accusing NBAA as if its their fault for the actions of those other anglers. It comes down to common courteousy and yes they weren't fishing an event that day, it doesn't make them just anglers, People need to realize when they become apart of any organization they set a precedence for that organization in everything they do on and off the water!! Well then share with me the information that i need to cure my ignorance.. Nothing that NBAA does should be a secret to their members Directors or not,We are all members. We have the right to know. I have many friends that are directors in NBAA and I go by the info that I hear and what I have seen. I like touching a nerve on this subject,I can tell I got you rialled up LGM cuz it gets the truth out. And yes forgive me i was wrong. TNT was the NBAA prior, owned by Skeeter who also started NBAA. Sorry not the Red Man!!!!

How come I dont see any apology about the ticket issue for the donated products??? You just asked to share the information with you to cure YOUR ignorance, and it has been shared now 3 times!!!! Ive also notcied that youve been to 3 of the NBAA classics. So let me get this straight, youre complaining about how NBAA is ran, yet youre one of the first people in line for the chance to win a boat??? Plus youre throwing out misleading information i.e.(paying for tickets for sponsor donated product raffles; saying NBAA used to be the redman, etc. etc.) Some of the NBAA members on here have given you the correct facts. You should make sure what you post is accurate before you post it, just because most of us dont want to come on here and hear something like BBT used to be the B.A.S.S or something.

[LGMOUTH]

share with me the ins and outs

Do you want to know the ins and outs of the nbaa buisness side? That you will have to talk to Jim since I do not know
If you want to know the ins and outs of being a director, that I can do.
Again what do you want to know?

[djkimmel]

Lets step back for a few minutes. Count to 10. Take a few deep breaths. Before things get silly please.

It should be about the topic, not the person. Even if it seems like the same exact discussion that happens every winter about the same topic. Even if it seems like the same exact discussion that happens every winter about the same topic.